The repressive elements of government upholding class relations die out in favor of the administration of things.

When did a communist government ever stop being repressive? It's nice in theory n' all.

Shout out to all the .ml accounts downvoting this comment 😂

Lol keep being tetchy PugJesus, we like you that way 😂

😂 at least this one has a sense of humor.

I agree with you that some of their ratings are questionable. It seems an impossible task to find any authoritative source of fact checking that doesn't have some inherent biases of its own. I mean, a lot of folks on the left regard RT and Al Jazeera as high credibility news organisations, and folks on the right still trust Fox News. The situation is a bit insane.

So, one of the more conservative Hexbear user then?

Whenever a hexbear user is involved in the debate you know they are gonna be on the wrong side of it.

I see what your saying, but it's just speculation without hard numbers. Personally I have no skin in the game either way, and the bot doesn't bother me. So for me it's a bit of a non-issue. I was just trying to get a data-based view of how much of a problem is really is. Sure, the data could be sliced and diced differently to paint a different picture. That's the nature of statistics.

But whatever the result, I still think it's pretty unfair to call out individual mods for not banning the bot. I'd also think twice before banning one of db0s bots. There's a power dynamic at play there. That's my main concern, and I don't think Jordan deserves to be called out in particular given the nature of his comments on this, which speak to a feeling of vulnerability. I have empathy for the guy, that's all. Is it worth all this personal vitriol towards someone just because you guys don't like some default setting in an app that can easily be turned off? Imo it's definitely not a case of power tripping, even if you hate the bot. Peace 🙏.

What do you think now the block rate has been published in the comments? Should communities change their defaults to cater to the vocal 1.2% of subscribers who can (and have) easily blocked the bot anyway, or make the assumption that 98.8% of users either don't care, or find it useful, and cater to them instead? A vocal minority like that can make a lot of noise, but it seems pretty clear they aren't representative of the vast majority of users.

Given the tiny percent of subscribed users who are bothered enough to actually block the bot, I don't know if "heavy criticism" is really accurate here. Its more of a (very) vocal minority trying to push their minority view on the vast majority who either like it or don't care. A 1.2% block rate is an amazingly good result for a bot I'd have thought.

Can confirm. Just walked the Camino and everyone I talked to had a bad experience with BMW drivers. The brand is like a dickhead magnet.

I think that clarifies things for me. Clearly it's a vocal minority, who can simply block the bot.

Haha thanks for the great suggestions. I've been on mobile only the past few weeks, but will try to do more in this format moving forward.

Seems harsh tbh, if Jordan was the only mod then it would be his sole decision but afaik that's not the situation. There are six mods in that community and presumably they operate on a consensus basis with a decision like this. The bot was obviously implemented by the instance admin. So where's the lie exactly?

Also people can block that bot if they don't want to see it. Some people are just obsessed with it for some reason. It'd be interesting to know what percent of LW users have blocked it - that'd give a better idea of how unpopular it is or whether it's a vocal minority issue. Any stats on that @MrKaplan@lemmy.world ?

If you hang out in politics communities they are gonna be toxic. I don't think that's a fair characterisation of lemmy in general though tbh. There are plenty of wholesome communities.

Can you imagine ml or hexbear adopting this rule though? I think it depends on the type of community. If it's a "safe space" type community then I think it's fine to keep out the dissenters. Eg I often remove right wing comments in lefty memes because it's supposed to be a space for memes, not people shouting at each other. Likewise, if someone starts ranting about the evils of piracy in c/piracy then they are getting a community ban. But a US politics community has to be tolerant of alternate viewpoints, because of the nature of the community. That's why it took a while to ban linkerbaan. He wasn't banned for his politics though, more because of the way he treated other users in such a hostile way all the time, even people who mostly agreed with him.

PTB

And for the record, Blaze, I don't understand how anyone could justify banning you simply for trying to post content and community building. If mods are proven PTBs then admins should remove them imo, or it reflects negativity on the instance.

I'm just gonna say this plainly. If you're a bigot you're not welcome on our instance. Bye!

They sure do, and they even spend big money trying to oust their own progressives. Definitely gonna shift to the left though lol

Thanks for the sub! 😄