'Disaster': Ex-GOP strategist believes Trump in for 'very bad night' if he debates Harris
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    Trump has frankly gotten embarrassed at every debate he's done, but the media handicaps him so hard that the narrative ends up being about everything his opponent does. So of course he's going to do the debate. He's going to say bat shit crazy things, he's going to lie, he's going to be cringe as fuck and he'll probably say a bunch of racist and sexist things.

    And the next day all the media will talk about is the time Harris sneezed or slightly mispronounced some word or some shit.

    17
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    So you can still ban the voting agent. Worst case scenario you have to wait for a single rule breaking comment to ban the user. That seems like a small price to pay for a massive privacy enhancement.

    3
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    I don't think you do. Admins can just ban the voting agent for bad voting behavior and the user for bad posting behavior. All of this conflict is imagined.

    3
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    This is literally already the Lemmy trust model. I can easily just spin up my own instance and send out fake pub actions to brigade. The method detecting and resolving this is no different.

    3
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    But if the only bad behavior is voting and you can that agent then you've solved the core issue. The utility is to remove the bad behavior, no?

    4
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    Ok, then you can keep your votes public and other who don't want that have an option as well. Everyone is happy. There is no conflict here.

    5
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    In addition to that, I guarantee you that meta and the like are already running data mining instances on here. Being publicly tied to votes is just more telemetry for the machine. I don't quite understand why people seem to think that is no big deal.

    3
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    Who cares? Generating an infinite number of tokenized identities to facilitate ban evasion will just result in an instance getting defederated. This introduces no real risk as long as the instance is generally abiding by the rules.

    Most of us here are fairly anonymous anyway. I dont think being able to add an additional layer of privacy to our activity is really a big deal.

    9
  • Private voting has been added to PieFed
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    Awesome! This is the exact stopgap implementation I was arguing for, and I'm surprised how many people kept insisting it was impossible. You should try and get this integrated into mainline Lemmy asap. Definitely joining piefed in the meantime though.

    12
  • Lemmy votes ARE public, should they be anonymous?
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearSO
    Socsa
    2mo ago 100%

    The rogue instance would still need fake users though. It would be very easy to see if you are getting votes from 300 unique tokens, but the instance only has 100 users.

    Also the method I am proposing would simply be transparent in terms of user management, so if you are running core Lemmy, the only way to generate voting tokens would be to generate users.

    2
  • Lemmy admins: we designed Lemmy to speak truth to power.

    129
    32