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  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 6d ago 50%

    Your trolling is tiresome. I'm done pretending you're discussing anything with any integrity.

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    Atheism 6d ago
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  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 6d ago 66%

    Biden is the one deciding US policy, and the responsibility for our foreign policy failures rest with him. There are two viable candidates running to replace him. One candidate promises a less conciliatory approach with Netanyahu, the other promises to help escalate the atrocities.

    Which do you think will get you closer to your stated goals?

    When you start engaging in good faith, you will get good faith in return.

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    Atheism 6d ago
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  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 6d ago 66%

    No, your second point doesn't make your case. Biden isn't running now, or did you forget? Not to mention, it doesn't change anything about what the author has to say about the political goals of evangelicals and how Trump would deliver for them, which is the topic of the article.

    I hear Putin calling. You better check and see what he wants.

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    Atheism 6d ago
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  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 6d ago 50%

    Nevermind that. He said he wanted to call out the military on anyone who didn't vote for him on live television. Why isn't the NYT reporting on that?

    Oh, it's just Trump!

    At this point, I'm fairly convinced that the people trying to argue that we shouldn't support Democrats because of a single issue, no matter how important that issue, are Russian assets.

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    Atheism 6d ago
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  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 6d ago 60%

    You still haven't explained how the author is wrong here. All you've told me is why you think the author is icky.

    My point stands.

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    Atheism 6d ago
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  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 6d ago 87%

    ...I'm not seeing anything explaining how the author is wrong. Ad hominem is not an argument.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 6d ago 96%
    White Evangelicals Must Lose in November
    johnpavlovitz.substack.com

    From a former pastor who knows what the insiders talk about: a warning we would be foolish to ignore.

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    Atheism 2w ago
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    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 100%

    Okay, but what about the not-kind things Jesus said? How are the people following those words somehow not Christian?

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    Atheism 2w ago
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    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 100%

    So please answer the question: what evidence do you have that these people aren't "Christian?"

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    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 83%

    He said more than that, though. They're probably following the other Jesus who called a foreign woman a dog, along other things. Let's take a closer look.

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    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 100%

    Do you have evidence to the contrary?

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    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 100%

    I hope you checked again and made sure you're still registered this weekend.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 2w ago 98%
    Pro-Trump Christian nationalists are on tour to recruit election workers
    https://www.npr.org/2024/10/04/nx-s1-5123626/christian-nationalist-election-workers-lance-wallnau

    Sick and tired of all the political content in forums like this? The authoritarians and theocrats are hoping you won't pay attention to how they're organizing to steal the next election.

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    My religion is atheist?
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 100%

    Right. I don't believe is my position as an atheist. I don't know is why.

    How is this so difficult for you?

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  • How to kill God?
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 100%

    That's pretty weak tea, especially considering how so many Christians (but not all, I know) insist that Jesus and Yahweh are the same person, just different aspects.

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  • How to kill God?
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2w ago 100%

    Sure, but the text claims he was already dead by that point. So we're back to my original claim.

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  • My religion is atheist?
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 3w ago 100%

    You're using the modified definition of "agnostic" that believers favor. We have no reason to accept that.

    "Agnostic" literally means "I don't know." "Atheist" means "I don't believe." I don't know that gods are real, and I have no reason to believe they do.

    No faith required.

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  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 3w ago 100%

    When it comes to the Christian God, that's easy.

    https://biblehub.com/judges/1-19.htm

    The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron.

    https://biblehub.com/1_kings/6-7.htm

    In building the temple, only blocks dressed at the quarry were used, and no hammer, chisel or any other iron tool was heard at the temple site while it was being built.

    While the Bible never says what was used to fix Jesus to the cross, tradition says it was three iron nails. There are two reasons why the account of the crucifixion is atypical of normal Roman executions: first of all, they didn't usually waste good iron nailing victims to their crosses. They tied them to the posts. Secondly, crucifixion victims normally took days to die of dehydration and suffocation, which is why the Romans did it that way. But Jesus allegedly died in hours, not days.

    So clearly, Yahweh has a weakness to iron. I fear no gods I know how to kill.

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  • www.bugbeardispatch.com

    For the first time since people started looking at demographics, more young women are leaving churches than young men. Naturally, the people most responsible for this trend have no idea what to make of it.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 3w ago 94%
    How ‘Left Behind’ Got Left Behind
    www.thebulwark.com

    Since the advent of the Trump era, the evangelical landscape has undergone rapid shifts, often in turbulent and dangerous directions. To be sure, there are still plenty of evangelical premillennialists out there faithfully waiting on the Rapture. But their sequestering, defensive posture is becoming outmoded. Remarkably, the most prominent and powerful new leaders—the ones dedicated to fully recentering evangelical politics on Donald Trump, and who have grown their power and influence through their association with him—are overwhelmingly anti-Rapture. They believe Christians have a more active and forceful role to play in the end of the world.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 4w ago 91%
    Talking to a brick wall | Jesus and Mo

    This is a repost from 2009.

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    Atheism 4w ago
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    To understand JD Vance, you need to meet the “TheoBros”
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 4w ago 100%

    Do you think they’ll go away if Trump fails to take the White House?

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    Atheism spaceghoti 4w ago 93%
    To understand JD Vance, you need to meet the “TheoBros”
    www.motherjones.com
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    https://youtu.be/Jvf17wYoLtk

    Kristi Burke is doing an excellent series of videos on Christian deconstruction. Here's her latest, posted yesterday.

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    In an Unprecedented Move, Ohio Is Funding the Construction of Private Religious Schools
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 1mo ago 100%

    They're using this to provoke challenges against the wall of separation between church and state. They feel confident, with good reason, that the christofascist majority on the Supreme Court will reinterpret our Constitution to eliminate that law.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 1mo ago 99%
    In an Unprecedented Move, Ohio Is Funding the Construction of Private Religious Schools
    www.propublica.org

    The march to theocracy continues.

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    I am looking for research papers that discourage religion indoctrination and considers it child abuse, please can you share them here?
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 1mo ago 100%

    Religious indoctrination doesn’t promote progress:

    This paper studies when religion can hamper diffusion of knowledge and economic development, and through which mechanism. I examine Catholicism in France during the Second Industrial Revolution (1870–1914). In this period, technology became skill-intensive, leading to the introduction of technical education in primary schools. I find that more religious locations had lower economic development after 1870. Schooling appears to be the key mechanism: more religious areas saw a slower adoption of the technical curriculum and a push for religious education. In turn, religious education was negatively associated with industrial development 10 to 15 years later, when schoolchildren entered the labor market.

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  • My problem with atheism
  • spaceghoti spaceghoti 2mo ago 100%

    Atheism doesn't mean I know there are no gods. I suspect there aren't, because religious claims about gods and reality don't stand up to scrutiny. The more excuses you have to make for why reality doesn't work the way you insist it should, the less inclined I am to believe you know what you're talking about. Arguing for a prime mover or appealing to consequences doesn't convince me either. I'm intellectually honest enough to say that I don't have concrete knowledge that there are no gods the way I know there's no money in my wallet, but not being able to prove there are no gods isn't enough for me to believe that there are. Wanting to believe there are gods is no more useful than wanting there to be money in my wallet. It's still a claim that requires validation, not a default assumption.

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  • www.salon.com

    Few people have an easy time escaping Christianity, because it's ubiquitous in Western society. But it can be done.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 3mo ago 96%
    The Christian Nationalist Vision for America
    https://tomdispatch.com/project-2025/

    There are a lot of good overviews of Project 2025 and the threat it poses to everyone who lives in America as well as beyond our borders. Here's a look at the Christian Nationalist intent behind it.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 3mo ago 97%
    The man who set the stage for an imperial presidency if Trump wins
    www.salon.com

    ...pay attention to Leonard Leo. He is the judicial kingmaker responsible for the list from which Trump selected Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Leo has shaped this Court and acted effectively to keep its Republican justices from abandoning his – and their – sectarian-right vision of America.

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    www.salon.com

    ...pay attention to Leonard Leo. He is the judicial kingmaker responsible for the list from which Trump selected Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Leo has shaped this Court and acted effectively to keep its Republican justices from abandoning his – and their – sectarian-right vision of America.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 5mo ago 94%
    Trump backers say he shares their Christian faith and values
    apnews.com

    We're not going to be able to fix these people. The only hope we have is to outlast them.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 5mo ago 98%
    'There's been so many' - Pedophile priest's eye-opening testimony in church sex abuse case
    www.wwltv.com

    Just when you thought it was safe to back into the pew.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 6mo ago 100%
    “An army of Jesus”: Inside Mike Johnson’s come-to-Jesus moment ahead of Ukraine reversal
    www.salon.com

    It should surprise no one that Dominionist Mike Johnson's change of heart on Ukraine was bought by suggesting to him that it could serve his religious agenda.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 6mo ago 97%
    We lost a great man today
    whyevolutionistrue.com

    Daniel Dennett, philosopher, atheist, and one of the tongue-in-cheek "Horsemen" of atheism, died today. He was 82.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 6mo ago 100%
    Oklahoma man arrested after authorities say he threw a pipe bomb at Satanic Temple in Massachusetts
    apnews.com

    Surveillance cameras showed a man walk up to the building soon after 4 a.m. on April 8 wearing a face covering, tactical vest and gloves, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the FBI. The man then ignited an improvised explosive device, threw it at the main entrance then ran away. The bomb partially detonated, resulting in some minor fire damage, authorities said.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 6mo ago 100%
    The Christian Nationalist Hydra: In Era of Trump, Christian Nationalism Has Many Faces
    talkingpointsmemo.com

    FTA: > The bottom line is that Christian nationalism takes on different forms, and despite organizational or even ideological differences, ideas can penetrate the often porous borders between different camps. Someone who receives the daily email blast from the Family Research Council might also be drawn to Wolfe’s book, for example. On a more unnerving, macro level, major right-wing and GOP figures, including Marjorie Taylor Greene and the CEO of the Daily Wire, the podcast consortium run by conservative influencer Ben Shapiro, have embraced the rabidly antisemitic, Hitler-admiring antagonist Nick Fuentes, who is Catholic but also is accurately described as a Christian nationalist. The increasingly influential Catholic integralist movement, which seeks a Catholic-inflected replacement for the “liberal order,” is yet another unique form of Christian nationalism.

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    Atheism spaceghoti 6mo ago 100%
    What Exactly Do the Christian Nationalists Want?
    talkingpointsmemo.com

    ...In 2022, Stephen Wolfe (no relation to William) published a book called “The Case for Christian Nationalism.” The book was published by Canon Press, a publishing house that began as a ministry of Wilson’s church. Stephen K. Bannon, the Trump adviser, reportedly had a copy of the book stacked on his table. In the book, Wolfe lays out a vision that veers very far into the fantastic — he rails against the advancement of women over the past several decades by using the term “gynocracy,” and describes both the Obergefell decision and the 1965 immigration reform which abolished quotas on national origin as an “imperial imposition.” One chapter, called “The Christian Prince,” advocates for a “measured and theocratic caesarism.” Wolfe has suggested that he’s playing a somewhat coy game here, using “prince” to refer not necessarily to a monarch, but possibly to the aggregate form of American governmental power. Whatever it is, in his version of Christian nationalism the prince would promote “national self-love and a manly, moral liberty.”

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    https://rolltodisbelieve.com/prri-study-reveals-christian-decline-unaffiliated-growth/

    It's mostly good news all around. Evangelicals are the only ones who are managing to hold their ground, so that's bad. But "Unaffiliated" which includes atheists, agnostics, and "Nones" are up from 21% in 2013 to 26% in 2023. We continue to be the fastest-growing demographic in the US. Furthermore, an increasing number of Americans simply find religion irrelevant or otherwise unimportant, and those numbers are growing as well. There is hope for the future, should we survive so long.

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